1 00:00:02,333 --> 00:00:04,375 Tonight, on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:06,166 The things that were going on there 3 00:00:06,167 --> 00:00:09,832 were just so frightening and almost unbelievable. 4 00:00:09,833 --> 00:00:12,666 Who is in the house? 5 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,000 I want to know who is in the house. 6 00:00:15,125 --> 00:00:16,708 Whoa, you see this? Yep. 7 00:00:16,833 --> 00:00:17,791 Yeah, that's angry. 8 00:00:18,708 --> 00:00:20,291 That does look angry. 9 00:00:20,292 --> 00:00:21,041 Are you OK? 10 00:00:21,042 --> 00:00:23,250 I'm in pain. 11 00:00:23,375 --> 00:00:25,666 It feels like knives, 10,000 knives 12 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,291 in the top of my shoulders. 13 00:00:27,292 --> 00:00:29,332 For years, scientists have 14 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:33,291 been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 15 00:00:33,292 --> 00:00:35,457 But is it possible that the clues 16 00:00:35,458 --> 00:00:38,374 to unlock the mystery are located 17 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:42,166 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 18 00:00:42,167 --> 00:00:43,624 Wow. 19 00:00:43,625 --> 00:00:46,874 Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 20 00:00:46,875 --> 00:00:49,124 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 21 00:00:49,125 --> 00:00:50,957 to go on a high-stakes mission across America. 22 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:53,582 Look at all this activity that's happening. 23 00:00:53,583 --> 00:00:54,999 That's unbelievable. 24 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,999 That is right over our heads. 25 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,333 That's it. That's it right there. 26 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:58,583 The goal-- uncover evidence that 27 00:00:58,708 --> 00:00:59,999 may finally expose the truth. 28 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,541 How is this happening? 29 00:01:01,542 --> 00:01:03,166 Now, it's going to get interesting. 30 00:01:03,167 --> 00:01:04,874 Look, it's moving! 31 00:01:04,875 --> 00:01:05,666 Look at that! Look at that! 32 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:06,291 Whoa! 33 00:01:06,292 --> 00:01:07,999 Whoa! 34 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,082 This is just the beginning. 35 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:15,749 Paul and Andy, Rocky Mountain Ranch, 36 00:01:15,750 --> 00:01:16,707 we're headed back again. 37 00:01:16,708 --> 00:01:18,000 Tell us the plan. 38 00:01:18,125 --> 00:01:19,541 Rocky Mountain Ranch, this location, 39 00:01:19,542 --> 00:01:22,457 which looks like really an idyllic ranch setting, 40 00:01:22,458 --> 00:01:25,708 has delivered over and over, these incredibly strange 41 00:01:25,875 --> 00:01:27,082 phenomenon. 42 00:01:27,083 --> 00:01:29,082 And the story begins with, you know, 43 00:01:29,083 --> 00:01:30,874 a young girl who spent a lot of time at this 44 00:01:30,875 --> 00:01:33,499 place in the early 1970s. 45 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:35,291 Right, a child, Katie 46 00:01:35,292 --> 00:01:39,249 Paige, who has gone on to become a respected UFO researcher. 47 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:41,667 And what her relationship is with this ranch 48 00:01:41,792 --> 00:01:44,082 seems to be something that we have been able to actually 49 00:01:44,083 --> 00:01:46,166 literally measure in the past. 50 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:48,457 During their first investigation, 51 00:01:48,458 --> 00:01:51,957 Katie shared a story of one of her most traumatizing memories 52 00:01:51,958 --> 00:01:53,707 on the ranch as a child. 53 00:01:53,708 --> 00:01:55,832 All the lights in the house went out. 54 00:01:55,833 --> 00:01:59,832 And at that moment, it was like from every orifice of the house, 55 00:01:59,833 --> 00:02:04,416 this electronic sounding voice comes out of the house. 56 00:02:04,417 --> 00:02:06,332 And it basically stated, you know, 57 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:08,499 we have allowed you to remain. 58 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:12,833 Your friends will be instructed to remain silent concerning us. 59 00:02:12,958 --> 00:02:14,124 That must have been terrifying. 60 00:02:14,125 --> 00:02:15,499 It was terrifying. 61 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,332 Later, the team did an experiment 62 00:02:17,333 --> 00:02:19,957 to see if Katie could trigger the house to speak 63 00:02:19,958 --> 00:02:22,582 to her again using a ham radio. 64 00:02:22,583 --> 00:02:25,749 We are back and we want to talk to you. 65 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:28,042 Whoa. 66 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:29,875 Whoa. 67 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:35,457 The house is absolutely reacting to Katie's voice. 68 00:02:35,458 --> 00:02:38,624 After analyzing the audio from the experiment, 69 00:02:38,625 --> 00:02:42,082 Travis and Erik also theorized that the house 70 00:02:42,083 --> 00:02:44,124 was responding to Katie. 71 00:02:44,125 --> 00:02:46,374 It's like the ranch recognizes her. 72 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:48,832 You know, we've seen things like that here on Skinwalker. 73 00:02:48,833 --> 00:02:51,541 There's a long history here of reported sightings that have 74 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:53,874 to do with blacked-out helicopters, a military 75 00:02:53,875 --> 00:02:55,416 presence, possible spacecraft. 76 00:02:55,417 --> 00:02:56,957 There have been orb sightings. 77 00:02:56,958 --> 00:02:58,249 There have been cryptid sightings. 78 00:02:58,250 --> 00:02:59,875 That's a heck of a list. 79 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,124 There are so many parallels between these two locations, 80 00:03:02,125 --> 00:03:04,916 between Rocky Mountain Ranch and Skinwalker Ranch. 81 00:03:04,917 --> 00:03:07,707 In both cases, you've got unsuspecting families 82 00:03:07,708 --> 00:03:10,999 whose lives are totally upended by these phenomenon. 83 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,457 And we're always trying to think 84 00:03:12,458 --> 00:03:15,124 of how do we go and unlock the secrets that are 85 00:03:15,125 --> 00:03:16,749 there at Rocky Mountain Ranch. 86 00:03:16,750 --> 00:03:18,666 And we think we might have a strategy that's unique here. 87 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:21,791 We are now in touch with Katie's older sister. 88 00:03:21,792 --> 00:03:23,250 Her name is Kris. 89 00:03:23,375 --> 00:03:25,124 Much like Katie, on our first time around, 90 00:03:25,125 --> 00:03:26,624 she's never been back. 91 00:03:26,625 --> 00:03:29,374 She says that she and Katie, and Katie confirms this, 92 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,666 do not really talk about this part of their childhood. 93 00:03:32,667 --> 00:03:37,375 So what we may have is sort of a new dataset. 94 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:40,749 A second witness that has not been corrupted 95 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:43,874 by years of conversation between the two of them 96 00:03:43,875 --> 00:03:45,082 about their experience. 97 00:03:45,083 --> 00:03:46,332 This is going to be like opening 98 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:47,916 a time capsule for these two. 99 00:03:47,917 --> 00:03:50,499 We know what this ranch does with Katie present. 100 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:53,042 But what will this ranch do, how will this ranch react 101 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:55,332 if we bring a new experiencer? 102 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:57,457 We're going to focus on communication. 103 00:03:57,458 --> 00:03:59,666 We're going to focus on radio signals. 104 00:03:59,667 --> 00:04:01,291 We're going to focus on things that 105 00:04:01,292 --> 00:04:04,333 may be links between the experiencers 106 00:04:04,458 --> 00:04:05,582 and the ranch itself. 107 00:04:05,583 --> 00:04:07,332 Yeah, we want to double down and push 108 00:04:07,333 --> 00:04:08,916 the limit as much as we can and really 109 00:04:08,917 --> 00:04:10,582 try to poke this hornet's nest. 110 00:04:10,583 --> 00:04:14,207 We have a metaphor for what we think could be going on, 111 00:04:14,208 --> 00:04:16,499 at least here at the ranch, and it's 112 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:19,666 kind of like how your phone, when you get into different cars 113 00:04:19,667 --> 00:04:21,917 and you pair it to that car, you can be away 114 00:04:22,042 --> 00:04:24,374 from that car for a long time. 115 00:04:24,375 --> 00:04:25,957 And when you come back, your phone 116 00:04:25,958 --> 00:04:27,957 will remember it and pair to it because you've 117 00:04:27,958 --> 00:04:29,666 handshook with it before. 118 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:31,832 We've had people that we brought that hadn't been on the ranch 119 00:04:31,833 --> 00:04:35,957 in 20, 15 years, and as soon as they got back, you know, 120 00:04:35,958 --> 00:04:37,374 things started happening. 121 00:04:37,375 --> 00:04:39,457 It's like the ranch remembered the person. 122 00:04:39,458 --> 00:04:42,207 It is a unique observational opportunity. 123 00:04:42,208 --> 00:04:43,582 It'll be really interesting. 124 00:04:43,583 --> 00:04:45,207 Can't wait to see it. - OK. 125 00:04:45,208 --> 00:04:46,582 Appreciate it, man. 126 00:04:46,583 --> 00:04:47,375 Thanks, guys. Yeah. 127 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,291 All right. 128 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:54,166 Due to the sensitive nature of this investigation, 129 00:04:54,167 --> 00:04:56,832 the current owners of Rocky Mountain Ranch 130 00:04:56,833 --> 00:05:00,917 have asked for their names and location to be kept anonymous. 131 00:05:05,875 --> 00:05:08,124 I'm really excited to be going back to this ranch. 132 00:05:08,125 --> 00:05:09,791 I mean, of all the places that we've been, 133 00:05:09,792 --> 00:05:12,874 every time we come back to the Rocky Mountain Ranch, 134 00:05:12,875 --> 00:05:14,624 something new happens. 135 00:05:14,625 --> 00:05:17,082 Yeah, I mean, coming back really for the third time 136 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:19,457 now, we've got a deep dataset. 137 00:05:19,458 --> 00:05:21,416 Right, now, the last time we were here, 138 00:05:21,417 --> 00:05:23,666 we really were able to focus in on some sort 139 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:26,374 of overhead anomaly happening at the landing site 140 00:05:26,375 --> 00:05:27,832 in front of the ranch house. 141 00:05:27,833 --> 00:05:30,457 During their last visit to the ranch, 142 00:05:30,458 --> 00:05:34,291 Andy and Paul investigated an intense hotspot on the property 143 00:05:34,292 --> 00:05:36,541 known as the landing site. 144 00:05:36,542 --> 00:05:38,874 This is the area that Katie described 145 00:05:38,875 --> 00:05:42,166 as a strange, barren circle where she and her sister 146 00:05:42,167 --> 00:05:44,499 played on the ranch when they were young. 147 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:48,750 There was this very large, dry-dirt, 148 00:05:48,875 --> 00:05:53,749 snowless circle, as if something was sitting here or something. 149 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:56,416 It's also the same spot where the team 150 00:05:56,417 --> 00:05:58,666 had multiple rockets crash. 151 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:00,207 Oh my goodness. 152 00:06:00,208 --> 00:06:01,874 And it's theorized that there 153 00:06:01,875 --> 00:06:03,666 may be a portal overhead. 154 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,791 Whether it's literally a portal 155 00:06:05,792 --> 00:06:07,791 opening up or even if it's just some sort 156 00:06:07,792 --> 00:06:09,957 of electromagnetic phenomena that at least gives you 157 00:06:09,958 --> 00:06:12,541 the impression of that, all the recipe is there for something 158 00:06:12,542 --> 00:06:14,374 like this to happen. 159 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:16,791 There's really something interesting about that location. 160 00:06:16,792 --> 00:06:20,499 I'm so curious to see what we learn from Kris, from the new-- 161 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:23,124 from our new experiencer and what 162 00:06:23,125 --> 00:06:25,874 we can really try to understand about these aerial phenomenon. 163 00:06:25,875 --> 00:06:28,666 I mean, it's just bizarre. 164 00:06:28,667 --> 00:06:30,749 Now the current ranch owners, Greg 165 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:32,332 and his daughter Nicole, have told me 166 00:06:32,333 --> 00:06:33,957 that they've actually had some new experiences since 167 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,499 the last time we've been here. Right. 168 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:36,957 So I'll meet with Greg and Nicole 169 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,749 and understand what they've been doing at the ranch. 170 00:06:38,750 --> 00:06:40,332 And in the meantime, you can head out to meet Kris. 171 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:41,750 Perfect. 172 00:06:41,875 --> 00:06:43,541 Yeah, we've got a lot of ground to cover. 173 00:06:43,542 --> 00:06:44,917 I think the divide-and-conquer strategy is the way to go. 174 00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:48,832 Talk to you soon. 175 00:06:58,083 --> 00:07:00,124 Morning. 176 00:07:00,125 --> 00:07:01,166 Nice to see you again. 177 00:07:01,167 --> 00:07:02,416 Oh, we got some new faces here. 178 00:07:02,417 --> 00:07:03,957 Yes. This is my sister, Julie. 179 00:07:03,958 --> 00:07:05,332 - Nice to meet you. - Julie, it's nice to meet you. 180 00:07:05,333 --> 00:07:06,332 - You know Nicole. - Hey, nice to see you. 181 00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:07,917 Nicole, good to see you again. 182 00:07:08,042 --> 00:07:09,207 Well, I understand there's been some new experiences, 183 00:07:09,208 --> 00:07:10,250 some new stories. 184 00:07:10,375 --> 00:07:11,332 You OK, buddy? 185 00:07:13,625 --> 00:07:15,374 He's trying to tell his side. 186 00:07:15,375 --> 00:07:16,832 I understand. I like your side. 187 00:07:16,833 --> 00:07:18,417 Well, what have you seen? What have you heard? 188 00:07:18,542 --> 00:07:21,791 Oh, it was just some strange lights in the house. 189 00:07:21,792 --> 00:07:22,457 In the house? 190 00:07:22,458 --> 00:07:23,791 In the house. 191 00:07:23,792 --> 00:07:26,707 It was probably 1:00 or so in the morning. 192 00:07:26,708 --> 00:07:29,999 And then there's two skylights in the back bedroom. 193 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,957 And if, like, somebody is coming from the barn, 194 00:07:31,958 --> 00:07:33,499 you can see the light coming through one of them. 195 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:35,041 And if someone's coming down the driveway, 196 00:07:35,042 --> 00:07:36,707 you'd see the lights coming through the other one. 197 00:07:36,708 --> 00:07:38,374 Well, this particular light came straight 198 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,583 down through both of them. 199 00:07:39,708 --> 00:07:40,791 Wow. 200 00:07:40,792 --> 00:07:42,999 And it lasted probably 10 seconds or so. 201 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,957 And then about 10, 15 minutes later, it did it again. 202 00:07:45,958 --> 00:07:47,332 What? 203 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:48,957 And it was basically coming straight down. 204 00:07:48,958 --> 00:07:51,207 Coming straight down, which implies that the light source 205 00:07:51,208 --> 00:07:52,207 is actually over the house. 206 00:07:52,208 --> 00:07:53,291 Yes, yes. 207 00:07:53,292 --> 00:07:54,166 That's the way we thought. 208 00:07:54,167 --> 00:07:55,999 That is so strange. 209 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,332 We've collected data that speaks to some kind of overhead anomaly 210 00:07:59,333 --> 00:08:00,916 here. 211 00:08:00,917 --> 00:08:02,375 What that is, we're still trying to figure out. 212 00:08:02,542 --> 00:08:04,167 But we've measured it electromagnetically. 213 00:08:04,292 --> 00:08:05,541 We've measured it with rockets. 214 00:08:05,542 --> 00:08:06,999 So we know that there's something 215 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,624 happening above the ranch. 216 00:08:08,625 --> 00:08:12,666 We just don't know when, why, how it is happening. 217 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:14,791 While Andy continues his conversation 218 00:08:14,792 --> 00:08:16,999 with the current ranch owners, Paul 219 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,541 sits down with Katie's sister, Kris, 220 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:22,791 to discuss her own experiences on the ranch. 221 00:08:22,792 --> 00:08:24,916 So what was it like growing up out here? 222 00:08:24,917 --> 00:08:27,374 Katie and I had an interesting childhood. 223 00:08:27,375 --> 00:08:28,707 I was a teenager at the time. 224 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:31,624 And so I, being the older sister, 225 00:08:31,625 --> 00:08:33,583 would take care of Katie a lot. 226 00:08:33,708 --> 00:08:36,041 A lot of what happened there and during that 227 00:08:36,042 --> 00:08:39,667 time has kind of been really shoved down in my psyche. 228 00:08:39,792 --> 00:08:41,666 Like, there's a lot of blocking going on. 229 00:08:41,667 --> 00:08:43,041 The things that were going on there 230 00:08:43,042 --> 00:08:45,875 were just so frightening and almost unbelievable. 231 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,957 It's things that if you went to talk to your friends about, 232 00:08:48,958 --> 00:08:50,582 you wouldn't do it. 233 00:08:50,583 --> 00:08:53,499 Because you would just be mocked and ridiculed and be 234 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:54,958 labeled a liar. 235 00:08:55,083 --> 00:08:56,416 Is it something that you didn't talk about? 236 00:08:56,417 --> 00:08:58,166 Oh, absolutely not. 237 00:08:58,167 --> 00:09:00,874 We were instructed not to ever talk about it, and we didn't. 238 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:01,749 We didn't. 239 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:02,999 So here's the big question. 240 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,750 When you say we were instructed never 241 00:09:04,875 --> 00:09:07,874 to talk about "it," what is it? 242 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:08,707 It being-- 243 00:09:08,708 --> 00:09:10,083 OK, that's a great question. 244 00:09:10,208 --> 00:09:11,332 Yeah. 245 00:09:11,333 --> 00:09:13,957 "It" being the events at the ranch. 246 00:09:13,958 --> 00:09:18,291 One major impactful incident that happened within the house, 247 00:09:18,292 --> 00:09:23,166 it was a night like where everybody's in a good mood 248 00:09:23,167 --> 00:09:24,457 and playing games. 249 00:09:24,458 --> 00:09:27,250 And out of the blue, bam, bam, bam, 250 00:09:27,375 --> 00:09:30,707 bam, bam, but on the wall outside 251 00:09:30,708 --> 00:09:33,000 of the house, a forceful pound. 252 00:09:33,167 --> 00:09:35,249 It wasn't, Hello, anybody home? 253 00:09:35,250 --> 00:09:38,166 No, it was boom, boom, boom. 254 00:09:38,167 --> 00:09:41,917 Everything just screeched to a halt, right? 255 00:09:42,042 --> 00:09:46,333 That's when the voice starts, in my recollection, 256 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:49,666 you know, a voice coming into the house. 257 00:09:49,667 --> 00:09:52,999 We have allowed you to stay. 258 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,875 Your friends will not say anything about us. 259 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,875 It felt like it was under the threat of death. 260 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,166 OK. 261 00:10:00,167 --> 00:10:03,417 So everybody is, like, frozen in their tracks-- 262 00:10:03,542 --> 00:10:04,333 in their tracks. 263 00:10:04,458 --> 00:10:05,167 Right. 264 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:11,833 Very, very, very frightening. 265 00:10:11,958 --> 00:10:13,666 Yeah, like, I can see it. 266 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:18,833 Your whole demeanor, you just went back there. 267 00:10:18,958 --> 00:10:20,457 Yeah. 268 00:10:20,458 --> 00:10:23,542 Another thing that was kind of freaky, I guess you would say, 269 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:28,624 is there was a large circle in the field. 270 00:10:28,625 --> 00:10:31,082 And Katie and I would-- 271 00:10:31,083 --> 00:10:33,582 I don't know if you'd say hang out there, but we'd, you know, 272 00:10:33,583 --> 00:10:35,499 toss a Frisbee or a ball or whatever. 273 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,166 It was just in the front. 274 00:10:37,167 --> 00:10:39,124 There was snow around every once in a while like you have here. 275 00:10:39,125 --> 00:10:41,624 And there was no snow in this perfect circle. 276 00:10:41,625 --> 00:10:44,749 So it was almost like an eerie feeling. 277 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:47,332 Those kind of memories, they're a long time ago. 278 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:51,291 Secondly, they're almost like a dream-like state in my brain. 279 00:10:51,292 --> 00:10:55,374 But how I know it wasn't a dream is because there's documentation 280 00:10:55,375 --> 00:10:57,208 that it wasn't a dream. 281 00:10:57,333 --> 00:10:59,832 What was unknown to Katie and Kris, 282 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:04,249 back in 1978, around the same time they were living there, 283 00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:08,082 a group known as the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, 284 00:11:08,083 --> 00:11:13,124 or APRO, also documented the strange events at the ranch. 285 00:11:13,125 --> 00:11:16,999 That APRO report, when I first read it, 286 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:24,124 I was literally stunned that things I had up in here 287 00:11:24,125 --> 00:11:24,832 are on paper. 288 00:11:24,833 --> 00:11:26,457 Right. 289 00:11:26,458 --> 00:11:29,291 It feels like, you know, you did your best to put it away. 290 00:11:29,292 --> 00:11:30,083 Yeah. 291 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:30,999 But-- 292 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,750 I wish I could release that. 293 00:11:33,875 --> 00:11:36,707 I'd like to be able to do that with this. 294 00:11:36,708 --> 00:11:38,624 Well, we'll take it slow. 295 00:11:38,625 --> 00:11:39,999 Thank you. 296 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,499 We have some experiments that we'd like to try. 297 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:45,083 We would love to just walk the grounds with you and Katie 298 00:11:45,208 --> 00:11:48,249 and sort of, you know, see what it brings up for you, what it 299 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:49,874 brings up for Katie, for the two of you 300 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:51,207 to be back there together. 301 00:11:51,208 --> 00:11:54,916 Yeah, it will be very, very interesting to see 302 00:11:54,917 --> 00:11:56,999 the feelings that come up-- 303 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,124 Yeah. 304 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:01,792 from an adult perspective, definitely. 305 00:12:07,042 --> 00:12:09,375 So how do you feel, knowing that we're just 306 00:12:09,542 --> 00:12:11,957 a few minutes from childhood? 307 00:12:11,958 --> 00:12:13,957 I'm a little apprehensive, to be honest. 308 00:12:13,958 --> 00:12:16,249 But I'm trying not to be fearful. 309 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:19,000 I'm an adult. I'm not that kid anymore. 310 00:12:19,125 --> 00:12:21,707 After almost 50 years, Kris 311 00:12:21,708 --> 00:12:23,750 is returning to Rocky Mountain Ranch 312 00:12:23,875 --> 00:12:26,667 for the first time since her strange experiences 313 00:12:26,792 --> 00:12:29,291 there as a teenager. 314 00:12:29,292 --> 00:12:34,249 OK, so here we are. 315 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:35,541 OK. 316 00:12:35,542 --> 00:12:36,999 Now we're getting closer. 317 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,166 Huh. 318 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:39,166 Caught your breath a little bit. 319 00:12:39,167 --> 00:12:40,249 Wow. 320 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:43,500 Oh my gosh. 321 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:44,374 Wow. 322 00:12:44,375 --> 00:12:45,332 Here we are. 323 00:12:45,333 --> 00:12:46,957 Here we are. 324 00:12:46,958 --> 00:12:48,374 - Welcome back, brother. - Hey, man. 325 00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:49,666 - Hello. - Hello. 326 00:12:49,667 --> 00:12:50,791 I'm Andy. 327 00:12:50,792 --> 00:12:51,999 Hi, Kris, nice to meet you. 328 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,291 Kris, it's so great to have you back. 329 00:12:53,292 --> 00:12:54,666 Yeah. 330 00:12:54,667 --> 00:12:57,707 It's-- how did I get here, you know, 331 00:12:57,708 --> 00:12:58,999 like, after all these years? 332 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,083 It's been a long journey. 333 00:13:00,208 --> 00:13:00,749 Yeah. Should we-- 334 00:13:00,750 --> 00:13:01,999 Yeah, yeah. 335 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,499 -walk up a little bit. 336 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,457 Yeah. 337 00:13:03,458 --> 00:13:04,291 Wow. 338 00:13:04,292 --> 00:13:05,166 OK. 339 00:13:05,167 --> 00:13:06,249 Wow. 340 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:07,624 Oh, it's so weird to be back here. 341 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:11,291 You all right? 342 00:13:11,292 --> 00:13:13,332 Wow. 343 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:15,166 Um. 344 00:13:15,167 --> 00:13:16,499 Wow. 345 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:18,791 Yeah. 346 00:13:18,792 --> 00:13:19,667 I don't know. 347 00:13:19,792 --> 00:13:21,542 I do have some emotions. 348 00:13:21,708 --> 00:13:22,417 Oh. 349 00:13:26,208 --> 00:13:27,917 I told myself I wasn't going to cry. 350 00:13:30,583 --> 00:13:32,291 A lot of memories here. 351 00:13:32,292 --> 00:13:33,083 Yeah. 352 00:13:37,375 --> 00:13:38,375 OK. - OK. 353 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,416 - Let's keep going. - OK. 354 00:13:39,417 --> 00:13:40,291 I'm sorry. 355 00:13:40,292 --> 00:13:41,999 No, you're doing great. 356 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,667 Wow. 357 00:13:43,792 --> 00:13:44,707 Well, the trees are bigger. 358 00:13:46,333 --> 00:13:48,999 Now, Kris, this is our first time meeting. 359 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,832 But let's go wherever you feel called to go. 360 00:13:51,833 --> 00:13:53,332 - Yeah. - OK. 361 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:54,666 And if you'll just share what you're feeling, 362 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:55,832 if you'll share what you're thinking, 363 00:13:55,833 --> 00:13:56,999 if you'll share what you remember-- 364 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,499 Mm-hmm. 365 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:00,291 Paul and I will immediately know whether or not we have any 366 00:14:00,292 --> 00:14:03,749 sort of data that is correlative to whatever it 367 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:05,041 is that you experienced here. 368 00:14:05,042 --> 00:14:06,374 We've talked to Katie. 369 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:08,124 We've learned what she experienced when 370 00:14:08,125 --> 00:14:09,374 she was about 10 years old. 371 00:14:09,375 --> 00:14:11,041 Now we've got her older sister, Kris, 372 00:14:11,042 --> 00:14:12,500 who was a teenager at the time. 373 00:14:12,625 --> 00:14:14,166 She's gonna have a much different 374 00:14:14,167 --> 00:14:17,707 sense, maybe better memories of what she experienced here. 375 00:14:17,708 --> 00:14:19,332 This is a great opportunity for us 376 00:14:19,333 --> 00:14:23,166 to paint a fuller picture of the experience of this place. 377 00:14:23,167 --> 00:14:24,707 I want to keep walking this way. 378 00:14:24,708 --> 00:14:25,458 Sure, yeah. 379 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:31,874 Like, from the house, I don't know, maybe-- 380 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:32,958 like, maybe in this-- 381 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:37,249 do you mind if we walk a little bit further? 382 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:37,832 Absolutely. 383 00:14:37,833 --> 00:14:39,541 More this way. 384 00:14:39,542 --> 00:14:41,999 Wherever you feel drawn to. 385 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,124 OK. 386 00:14:44,125 --> 00:14:48,166 Just trying to get a sense of how far we are from the house. 387 00:14:48,167 --> 00:14:51,083 Oh, this looks interesting. 388 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,041 I feel sick to my stomach. 389 00:14:56,042 --> 00:14:56,749 Oh, no. 390 00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:58,208 Suddenly or-- 391 00:14:58,333 --> 00:14:59,957 Just getting a little nauseous feeling. 392 00:14:59,958 --> 00:15:01,875 Emotional or-- 393 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,166 I don't know. 394 00:15:04,167 --> 00:15:05,582 It's OK. 395 00:15:05,583 --> 00:15:06,999 Well, this is something that's very interesting to us. 396 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,333 Yeah. 397 00:15:08,458 --> 00:15:10,707 Where you have parked us is exactly where 398 00:15:10,708 --> 00:15:13,124 Katie showed me where the spot was 399 00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:15,249 that you used to play Frisbee. 400 00:15:15,250 --> 00:15:18,749 The landing site where Kris has led them is also 401 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:21,166 where the team has had two rockets crash 402 00:15:21,167 --> 00:15:22,791 in previous investigations. 403 00:15:22,792 --> 00:15:25,250 Oh my goodness. 404 00:15:25,375 --> 00:15:28,042 And when Terra Exploration Group 405 00:15:28,167 --> 00:15:30,332 ran a drone-based investigation here, 406 00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:33,332 the results were completely unexplainable. 407 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:36,874 All that black area there is no magnetometer data. 408 00:15:36,875 --> 00:15:37,957 I can't explain it. 409 00:15:37,958 --> 00:15:39,999 It's never happened before. 410 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,250 I'm kind of speechless right now, to be honest. 411 00:15:44,375 --> 00:15:46,624 What we're seeing here is that you and your sister 412 00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:51,666 seem to be antennas that pick up the energy this ranch. 413 00:15:51,667 --> 00:15:55,666 And we're in a position to help unlock a little bit of what 414 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:56,666 might be happening here. 415 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:58,457 Yeah. 416 00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:00,666 Because we can bring the data and the experiences together. 417 00:16:00,667 --> 00:16:04,124 You can see the memories that this place is prompting. 418 00:16:04,125 --> 00:16:07,041 You can see sort of the pieces coming back together for her. 419 00:16:07,042 --> 00:16:08,874 And she's just here by herself. 420 00:16:08,875 --> 00:16:10,832 I'm really curious to see what happens 421 00:16:10,833 --> 00:16:15,291 when she's here with Katie, when they're here together. 422 00:16:15,292 --> 00:16:17,249 Now that Kris has had a chance 423 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:20,417 to explore the ranch on her own with Andy and Paul, 424 00:16:20,542 --> 00:16:23,082 the team brings the two sisters together 425 00:16:23,083 --> 00:16:25,208 later that night, before launching 426 00:16:25,333 --> 00:16:27,291 into their first experiment. 427 00:16:27,292 --> 00:16:29,708 Katie, it's great to have you back on the ranch. 428 00:16:29,833 --> 00:16:32,582 And it's really something else to have the two of you 429 00:16:32,583 --> 00:16:34,000 here at the same time. 430 00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:35,832 Yeah, this is the first time we've been back here 431 00:16:35,833 --> 00:16:37,708 together since we were kids. 432 00:16:37,833 --> 00:16:40,499 I've, you know, spent my entire life 433 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,916 not wanting to know anything about this, 434 00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:45,666 just trying to get rid of it. 435 00:16:45,667 --> 00:16:47,582 Because it was very frightening. 436 00:16:47,583 --> 00:16:49,666 And, you know, you don't want to carry that around. 437 00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:51,874 I mean, this was not like a month or two or weeks. 438 00:16:51,875 --> 00:16:54,916 This was three years of our life where this activity was 439 00:16:54,917 --> 00:16:58,999 at its height, of circles on the ground and disembodied voices 440 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,083 and hums and all of it. 441 00:17:01,208 --> 00:17:03,249 It was a lot to process. 442 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:08,000 And for us to come together to face that together is fantastic. 443 00:17:08,208 --> 00:17:10,999 Well, we will literally take it one step at a time. 444 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,624 I think, you know, for Andy and I, 445 00:17:12,625 --> 00:17:15,332 the idea is we really are-- you know, we're here with you, 446 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:16,833 but we're also observing you. 447 00:17:16,958 --> 00:17:18,624 We want to see how you react. 448 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:20,874 And, you know, we're going to follow your lead. 449 00:17:26,792 --> 00:17:28,124 Welcome back, Jares. 450 00:17:28,125 --> 00:17:29,207 Hey, glad to be back. 451 00:17:29,208 --> 00:17:30,124 Jares, great to have you again. 452 00:17:30,125 --> 00:17:31,874 Wonderful to be back. 453 00:17:31,875 --> 00:17:33,999 Tell me a little bit about what we're planning to do again here. 454 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,582 I know what kind of equipment I have here, 455 00:17:35,583 --> 00:17:37,832 but I don't know exactly what we're trying to do. 456 00:17:37,833 --> 00:17:40,749 Our goal here is to exactly replicate 457 00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:42,875 the same experiment we did with you the last time 458 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,166 we were on this ranch. 459 00:17:44,167 --> 00:17:45,749 For their first experiment, 460 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:49,374 Andy and Paul have brought in engineer and ham radio 461 00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:53,041 specialist Jares Doverspike to test the theory 462 00:17:53,042 --> 00:17:55,832 that the phenomena at Rocky Mountain Ranch 463 00:17:55,833 --> 00:18:00,374 might be able to communicate with Katie and her sister Kris. 464 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:02,374 The most sort of unsettling experiences 465 00:18:02,375 --> 00:18:06,332 that both of the sisters report having was the night when 466 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:09,374 the house was powered down, when the entire house had lost power, 467 00:18:09,375 --> 00:18:12,624 that somehow there was a voice coming 468 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:15,332 through the stereo system. 469 00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:17,666 During their first investigation, 470 00:18:17,667 --> 00:18:21,250 the team broadcasted Katie's voice through a ham radio 471 00:18:21,375 --> 00:18:23,832 into the house and up into space, 472 00:18:23,833 --> 00:18:28,291 capturing what appeared to be the ranch responding back. 473 00:18:28,292 --> 00:18:32,166 We are back, and we want to talk to you. 474 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:34,333 Whoa. 475 00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:35,083 Whoa. 476 00:18:38,542 --> 00:18:40,291 Rocky Mountain Ranch 477 00:18:40,292 --> 00:18:41,999 seems to have a number of things in common with Skinwalker Ranch. 478 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,499 And one of the things they have in common 479 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,499 is that the ranch seems to have its own relationship 480 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,249 or its own response to different people on the ranch. 481 00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:50,124 So a big part of what we're trying to do here 482 00:18:50,125 --> 00:18:52,917 is bring in Kris and see if we can't measure 483 00:18:53,042 --> 00:18:56,207 a difference in the amplitude between the two sisters 484 00:18:56,208 --> 00:18:57,957 and the ranch itself. 485 00:18:57,958 --> 00:19:01,249 For this experiment, they're going to use a ham radio 486 00:19:01,250 --> 00:19:04,749 to broadcast on a 1.6-gigahertz frequency, 487 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,499 which correlates with strange phenomena and has been 488 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:09,833 used by the Skinwalker team to try 489 00:19:09,958 --> 00:19:11,666 to communicate with the ranch. 490 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:14,999 We're gonna be broadcasting a sweep across this 1.6 gigahertz, 491 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,832 part of the spectrum where we're getting these weird signals here 492 00:19:17,833 --> 00:19:19,042 on the ranch. 493 00:19:19,167 --> 00:19:21,707 We're going to hopefully stimulate 494 00:19:21,708 --> 00:19:23,624 the biggest response so far. 495 00:19:23,625 --> 00:19:25,375 So your equipment is exactly the same 496 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:26,832 as what we had here last time. 497 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,249 Exactly the same equipment. 498 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,000 Exactly the same setup. 499 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,291 It's transmitting on the exact same frequency. 500 00:19:32,292 --> 00:19:34,957 Pretty much couldn't get more similar to what 501 00:19:34,958 --> 00:19:36,582 we were doing before. 502 00:19:36,583 --> 00:19:38,832 Andy and Paul have also set up multiple vintage 503 00:19:38,833 --> 00:19:42,291 radios to replicate the setup when the sisters were children 504 00:19:42,292 --> 00:19:45,374 in the 1970s and heard electronic 505 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:49,332 voices coming through radio speakers inside the house. 506 00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:52,041 So this is the actual room where Katie and her sister 507 00:19:52,042 --> 00:19:53,791 experienced those disembodied voices 508 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:56,249 that were coming from speakers that had no power source. 509 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:59,499 This is our version of a speaker with no power source, 510 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:02,666 a crystal radio that essentially runs off of no external energy 511 00:20:02,667 --> 00:20:04,082 at all. 512 00:20:04,083 --> 00:20:05,708 And it's connected to an oscilloscope here. 513 00:20:05,833 --> 00:20:07,999 So the oscilloscope will show us visually if there's any energy 514 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,457 coming from the crystal radio. 515 00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,082 That's the heart of this experiment 516 00:20:11,083 --> 00:20:13,750 is to have this room filled with highly sensitive equipment-- 517 00:20:13,875 --> 00:20:15,374 Right. 518 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:18,499 so that any change that's perhaps even beyond human 519 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,457 hearing, the equipment itself will 520 00:20:20,458 --> 00:20:23,417 pick it up here and then tell us from the safety of the patio. 521 00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:24,457 All right. 522 00:20:24,458 --> 00:20:25,541 Let's get these guys turned on. 523 00:20:25,542 --> 00:20:28,999 And then we'll be ready to start. 524 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:34,624 The plan is, after they broadcast a voice at 1.6 525 00:20:34,625 --> 00:20:37,457 gigahertz into the atmosphere, they 526 00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:40,499 will use multiple radios inside the house 527 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,999 and monitor for any audio anomalies 528 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,542 coming from the speakers. 529 00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:46,916 The most sensitive radio they're using 530 00:20:46,917 --> 00:20:50,583 is a crystal radio, which works without electricity. 531 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,916 Attached to the crystal radio is an oscilloscope, 532 00:20:53,917 --> 00:20:57,208 which will graphically display any electrical signal 533 00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:59,417 coming from the crystal radio. 534 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:00,957 And then we also have a spectrum 535 00:21:00,958 --> 00:21:03,832 analyzer connected to a highly sensitive microphone. 536 00:21:03,833 --> 00:21:06,833 So anything those mics pick up, we'll be able to see 537 00:21:06,958 --> 00:21:08,666 in terms of a spectrum here. 538 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:10,749 The team is adding additional data 539 00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:15,375 to the experiment by setting up two AI-powered UFODAPs that 540 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:19,374 can identify any unknown aerial phenomena and also 541 00:21:19,375 --> 00:21:22,041 a thermal camera to capture any temperature 542 00:21:22,042 --> 00:21:24,124 changes in the atmosphere. 543 00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:27,750 Both instruments are focused on the most intense hotspot 544 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:32,375 on the ranch, the landing site, to monitor for any activity 545 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,582 during the experiment. 546 00:21:34,583 --> 00:21:37,082 We know from our previous experiment with Katie 547 00:21:37,083 --> 00:21:40,500 that the house can react, that something in the environment 548 00:21:40,625 --> 00:21:42,499 here responds to her presence. 549 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,541 What's going to happen with the two of them together? 550 00:21:44,542 --> 00:21:46,042 That's what we're here to find out. 551 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,957 Having both of us here should prove to be quite interesting. 552 00:21:51,958 --> 00:21:52,832 Yeah. 553 00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:54,291 Let's find out. 554 00:21:54,292 --> 00:21:55,166 - Hello. - Hi. 555 00:21:55,167 --> 00:21:56,707 - Hey. - Hi. 556 00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:57,457 - This is my sister Kris. - Nice to meet you. 557 00:21:57,458 --> 00:21:58,666 Hi, nice to meet you. 558 00:21:58,667 --> 00:22:00,041 Kris, this is Jares Doverspike. 559 00:22:00,042 --> 00:22:02,624 He's our radio experiment expert here. 560 00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,916 We've seen an amazing response with your sister 561 00:22:04,917 --> 00:22:07,166 when she came out here and did the same experiment. 562 00:22:07,167 --> 00:22:11,332 We saw significant variances in the static 563 00:22:11,333 --> 00:22:13,666 that was actually being produced by the AM radios. 564 00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:15,499 What we're curious about is whether or not 565 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:19,083 any part of this energy transfer changes now that the two of you 566 00:22:19,208 --> 00:22:20,499 are here. 567 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:22,582 Bottom line is the only difference is you. 568 00:22:22,583 --> 00:22:24,499 This is reaching way back in time. 569 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,166 I mean, here you are in the present, 570 00:22:26,167 --> 00:22:30,333 you know, just outside the room where one of the most salient 571 00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:32,707 experiences you had here took place. 572 00:22:32,708 --> 00:22:34,542 How does it feel to be back here? 573 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:35,957 Shocking. 574 00:22:35,958 --> 00:22:38,208 And right now I'm a little nervous, to be honest. 575 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:40,332 It stayed with us all these years. 576 00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:42,332 We'd sleep in the same room because she 577 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:43,667 was a protector to me. 578 00:22:43,792 --> 00:22:46,499 And I really looked to her to protect me. 579 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,417 Well, we hope that we can try to unpack and understand 580 00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:52,749 a little better, you know, what went on here 581 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:54,916 and what might still be going on here. 582 00:22:54,917 --> 00:22:57,332 So our first step here will be basically a control. 583 00:22:57,333 --> 00:22:58,791 Right. 584 00:22:58,792 --> 00:23:00,166 Jares will make an announcement. 585 00:23:00,167 --> 00:23:01,708 and we'll see whether or not there's 586 00:23:01,833 --> 00:23:03,166 any reaction on the radio spectrum to Jares' announcement. 587 00:23:03,167 --> 00:23:04,166 - Everybody ready for this? - All right. 588 00:23:04,167 --> 00:23:05,250 - Go for it. - All right. 589 00:23:05,375 --> 00:23:08,791 CAN4, [bleep] CQ, CQ, CQ. 590 00:23:08,792 --> 00:23:12,624 Let me know if anyone else can hear me out there. 591 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:15,041 You can see what baseline looks like when 592 00:23:15,042 --> 00:23:16,375 Jares launches, right? 593 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,291 That's the length of his transmission. 594 00:23:18,292 --> 00:23:20,083 Otherwise, it looks the same before and after. 595 00:23:20,208 --> 00:23:20,916 OK. 596 00:23:20,917 --> 00:23:22,166 OK, you're up. 597 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:22,999 OK. 598 00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:25,207 Ready? 599 00:23:25,208 --> 00:23:27,749 Speak directly to the phenomenon. 600 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:28,957 CAN4 [bleep]. 601 00:23:28,958 --> 00:23:31,332 I'm going to be having a secondary operator 602 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:32,625 off of my station. 603 00:23:35,417 --> 00:23:38,082 Hi, I just want you to know that I am here. 604 00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,917 I was here many, many years ago. 605 00:23:40,042 --> 00:23:44,249 And you significantly impacted my life over these many years. 606 00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:47,499 Here we are now trying to figure out what's going on, 607 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,792 who you are, and what you're about. 608 00:23:54,208 --> 00:23:55,750 I saw a notice on the oscilloscope 609 00:23:55,875 --> 00:23:58,332 during that I don't think I saw during my transmission. 610 00:23:58,333 --> 00:23:59,957 When you spoke, there 611 00:23:59,958 --> 00:24:02,207 was a completely different signature on the oscilloscope 612 00:24:02,208 --> 00:24:03,082 than when she spoke. 613 00:24:03,083 --> 00:24:04,333 That's fascinating. 614 00:24:04,458 --> 00:24:05,832 And that's not what we would expect. 615 00:24:05,833 --> 00:24:07,832 They should be the same. It's just a human voice. 616 00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:08,791 It's just energy. 617 00:24:08,792 --> 00:24:09,999 Yeah. 618 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,749 This is not something that would be typical. 619 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:14,416 If the oscilloscope changes, that means that the crystal 620 00:24:14,417 --> 00:24:16,166 radio is picking something up. - Right. 621 00:24:16,167 --> 00:24:17,374 Hmm. 622 00:24:17,375 --> 00:24:18,374 That's a very different response 623 00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:19,332 than what we got with Katie. 624 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,124 Very different. 625 00:24:21,125 --> 00:24:24,624 Last time with Katie, we saw a spike on the spectrum analyzer. 626 00:24:24,625 --> 00:24:26,999 This time we're seeing something on the oscilloscope. 627 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,666 It's a little more subtle. 628 00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:31,500 But no question-- we are seeing a response from the environment, 629 00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:34,417 from the house, from whatever energy is here. 630 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:41,291 There's an energy shift here happening. 631 00:24:41,292 --> 00:24:42,874 Right. 632 00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:46,207 It is very clearly tied to Kris and her transmission. 633 00:24:46,208 --> 00:24:49,542 Andy and Paul are with Katie, Kris, and engineer 634 00:24:49,667 --> 00:24:52,957 Jares Doverspike conducting a ham radio experiment 635 00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:56,541 to see if they can communicate directly with the phenomena 636 00:24:56,542 --> 00:24:58,416 on Rocky Mountain Ranch. 637 00:24:58,417 --> 00:25:00,957 We haven't tested Katie yet on the transmission. 638 00:25:00,958 --> 00:25:02,666 Maybe that's the next step. OK. 639 00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:03,999 Ready for me to call again, just 640 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,833 to do another baseline check? - Yes, sir. 641 00:25:05,958 --> 00:25:07,541 All right. 642 00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:09,416 CAN4 [bleep] I'm gonna be having a secondary operator 643 00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,832 off of my station. 644 00:25:11,833 --> 00:25:13,291 So that's normal. 645 00:25:13,292 --> 00:25:14,332 OK. 646 00:25:14,333 --> 00:25:16,749 OK, I'm ready. 647 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:21,082 All right, so who is in the house? 648 00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:22,667 Whatever you are-- 649 00:25:22,792 --> 00:25:24,957 I want to know who is in the house. 650 00:25:24,958 --> 00:25:26,374 Who am I talking to? 651 00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:31,082 My sister and I, all these years, we've lived with this. 652 00:25:31,083 --> 00:25:34,124 And we want to know who, what, and why 653 00:25:34,125 --> 00:25:37,333 we're communicating with you. 654 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:38,874 I just saw it go nuts. 655 00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:40,291 - Did you see it moving? - For awhile, yeah, I did. 656 00:25:40,292 --> 00:25:41,666 Right off the bat, there's this, 657 00:25:41,667 --> 00:25:43,457 like, intense flicker of activity, 658 00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,416 and then it stabilizes. 659 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:45,917 Right with her voice. 660 00:25:46,042 --> 00:25:47,374 Yeah. 661 00:25:47,375 --> 00:25:48,791 That thing changed, that oscilloscope energy 662 00:25:48,792 --> 00:25:50,332 changed significantly. 663 00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:51,791 Wow. 664 00:25:51,792 --> 00:25:53,166 That was-- that was something. 665 00:25:53,167 --> 00:25:54,999 What we were seeing before 666 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,207 in our first experiment here, there 667 00:25:57,208 --> 00:25:59,332 was an audible change only. 668 00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:02,374 There was no change in the oscilloscope. 669 00:26:02,375 --> 00:26:05,833 Same person, different response. 670 00:26:05,958 --> 00:26:09,249 But again, the only difference is the presence 671 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,832 of the other sister. 672 00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:14,666 And I wonder if the energy between you 673 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,749 somehow is affecting the energy that you're putting out, 674 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,832 you know, that the sum is greater than the parts. 675 00:26:19,833 --> 00:26:22,166 Well, yeah, I think you're making a fantastic point. 676 00:26:22,167 --> 00:26:24,999 We did not account for the fact that we have actually introduced 677 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,333 two variables, an additional person, 678 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,832 but also a complete change in energy 679 00:26:29,833 --> 00:26:31,457 by putting the two of them together. 680 00:26:31,458 --> 00:26:32,917 Right. 681 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:35,374 Because I feel safer with big sister here. 682 00:26:35,375 --> 00:26:36,708 Oh, that's interesting. 683 00:26:36,875 --> 00:26:38,124 Yeah. 684 00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:40,916 We should introduce a third element to the test. 685 00:26:40,917 --> 00:26:43,208 We should have a transmission from both of them. 686 00:26:45,625 --> 00:26:46,374 OK, do it. 687 00:26:46,375 --> 00:26:48,124 All right. 688 00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:49,874 CAN4 [bleep]. 689 00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:53,542 I'm going to be having secondary operators off of my station. 690 00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,999 So, so many things happened at this ranch 691 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,874 with pounding on the house, with orbs flying off, 692 00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:04,416 with a circle on the ground, the landing site, um, what 693 00:27:04,417 --> 00:27:06,999 is up with the landing site? 694 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,457 I mean, what was there and what is still there now? 695 00:27:10,458 --> 00:27:12,000 Is there something still underground? 696 00:27:12,125 --> 00:27:13,041 Is it above ground? 697 00:27:13,042 --> 00:27:14,999 What is it? 698 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,541 This is something that you need 699 00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:21,832 to know terrified many, many people here 700 00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:23,791 for many, many years. 701 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:26,000 And if that's what you were trying to do, job well done. 702 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,166 Wow. 703 00:27:32,167 --> 00:27:33,666 I mean, that was incredible. 704 00:27:33,667 --> 00:27:35,082 That was a lot. --in that time. 705 00:27:35,083 --> 00:27:36,666 And the correlation about when the energy shifts 706 00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:38,332 happened along with what you were talking about 707 00:27:38,333 --> 00:27:39,791 was really significant. 708 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:42,667 The landing site, it just seemed to just go vroom. 709 00:27:42,792 --> 00:27:44,332 That's mind bending. 710 00:27:44,333 --> 00:27:45,832 It really is. 711 00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:48,042 It's mind bending that there's something to respond. 712 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:49,875 But it's not a response to all of us. 713 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,957 It's only a response to the two of you. 714 00:27:51,958 --> 00:27:53,999 Our control did not get that response. 715 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,749 Whatever it is about the sisters, about their presence, 716 00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:58,041 about their-- 717 00:27:58,042 --> 00:27:59,832 their activation of this environment, 718 00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:03,499 it is having a measurable, confirmable effect. 719 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:09,832 Our goal here really was to see how you sort of changed the mix, 720 00:28:09,833 --> 00:28:12,667 and I think what we've seen here is, significantly. 721 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:25,042 You know, I've been thinking that all data points 722 00:28:25,208 --> 00:28:27,541 to some kind of relationship between these two sisters 723 00:28:27,542 --> 00:28:28,917 and the ranch itself. 724 00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:30,624 One of the things that we haven't tried yet 725 00:28:30,625 --> 00:28:33,082 is just passively observing what happens 726 00:28:33,083 --> 00:28:35,374 when we let the two sisters themselves 727 00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:37,166 be the target of the study. 728 00:28:37,167 --> 00:28:38,499 Right. 729 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:39,875 Instead of trying to provoke a response 730 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,708 or trying to find the boundaries of an anomaly 731 00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:43,374 or trying to dig into the energy source, 732 00:28:43,375 --> 00:28:45,083 what if we just observed? 733 00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,541 That's interesting. 734 00:28:46,542 --> 00:28:47,832 Yeah, I mean, we've never really done that. 735 00:28:47,833 --> 00:28:49,417 What we've done time after time is 736 00:28:49,542 --> 00:28:53,083 try to use physical sort of instrument-related triggers 737 00:28:53,208 --> 00:28:55,167 to get some kind of response from wherever 738 00:28:55,292 --> 00:28:58,624 we are, right, whether it's lasers or rockets or audio, 739 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,416 right? 740 00:29:00,417 --> 00:29:03,417 This time we have the chance to use really people as triggers. 741 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:04,874 Right. 742 00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:07,207 So we use our technology to see what's happening 743 00:29:07,208 --> 00:29:08,667 in the invisible world. 744 00:29:08,792 --> 00:29:10,707 But then we let these two sisters come together 745 00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:13,082 and essentially trigger or bait the phenomenon 746 00:29:13,083 --> 00:29:14,499 into showing itself. - Right. 747 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:15,791 We know that whatever relationship 748 00:29:15,792 --> 00:29:17,457 these sisters hold with the ranch 749 00:29:17,458 --> 00:29:18,957 is an intense relationship. 750 00:29:18,958 --> 00:29:20,999 So I feel like we should take them to the most 751 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,957 intense anomaly on the ranch. 752 00:29:22,958 --> 00:29:24,624 Right to the landing site. 753 00:29:24,625 --> 00:29:27,707 Yeah, I mean, really, that's the site where seemingly everything 754 00:29:27,708 --> 00:29:29,042 happens at this place. 755 00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:30,749 We'll set up all of our equipment. 756 00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:32,749 We'll put ourselves in full observation mode. 757 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:35,124 We'll have the two of them and really light the fuse 758 00:29:35,125 --> 00:29:36,874 and see what happens. - Sounds like a plan. 759 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:37,957 This place usually delivers. 760 00:29:44,042 --> 00:29:45,708 We have everything set up tonight 761 00:29:45,833 --> 00:29:47,583 for I'm hoping what is going to be one of our most 762 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:48,999 exploratory experiments here. 763 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,666 What we're going to try to do here 764 00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:53,874 is record the influence that you two may or may 765 00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:55,499 not have on this environment. - OK. 766 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,249 All right. 767 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,124 For their final test at Rocky Mountain Ranch, 768 00:29:59,125 --> 00:30:01,957 Andy and Paul have brought sisters Kris and Katie 769 00:30:01,958 --> 00:30:04,499 to the landing site to see if having them 770 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,666 both there together might elicit any strange phenomena. 771 00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:10,082 This is the same place where both of you 772 00:30:10,083 --> 00:30:12,874 independently took me and identified 773 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:14,249 the bare spot in the ground. 774 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:15,916 It's also the spot where we've had very 775 00:30:15,917 --> 00:30:17,666 sophisticated equipment fail. 776 00:30:17,667 --> 00:30:20,457 We've seen rockets fall out of the sky, just in this very spot, 777 00:30:20,458 --> 00:30:22,874 not to mention the fact that we've had other report sources, 778 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,874 like the APRO report itself, that all 779 00:30:24,875 --> 00:30:26,916 reported strange phenomenon happening in this area. 780 00:30:26,917 --> 00:30:28,332 Yeah, right in this location. 781 00:30:28,333 --> 00:30:30,666 The team has set up thermal cameras 782 00:30:30,667 --> 00:30:32,999 to monitor for any changes in temperature, 783 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,124 AI-powered UFODAPs to capture any aerial anomalies, 784 00:30:37,125 --> 00:30:40,624 and a spectrum analyzer to see what radio energy 785 00:30:40,625 --> 00:30:42,624 is present in the environment. 786 00:30:42,625 --> 00:30:45,166 So what we're doing right now is establishing baselines, 787 00:30:45,167 --> 00:30:47,999 trying to get a sense of what does normal look like right out 788 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,583 of the gate so we can measure anything 789 00:30:49,708 --> 00:30:50,749 that changes against that. 790 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:52,832 You see that 791 00:30:52,833 --> 00:30:55,332 Oh, look at that. 792 00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:58,999 So what we're seeing here is a very intense signal 793 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,833 here at 1.6128 gigahertz. 794 00:31:01,958 --> 00:31:03,916 And then this is showing you that there's 795 00:31:03,917 --> 00:31:08,332 some fluctuating energy that's related to that signal. 796 00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:12,374 1.6 to 1.8 gigahertz is a restricted frequency 797 00:31:12,375 --> 00:31:15,041 range reserved for Earth-to-space and 798 00:31:15,042 --> 00:31:16,249 space-to-Earth communication. 799 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:17,957 I'm going to see 800 00:31:17,958 --> 00:31:19,624 if there's anything else happening in the spectrum, Paul. 801 00:31:19,625 --> 00:31:20,707 Mm-hmm. 802 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:22,791 We're seeing this 1.6 signal. 803 00:31:22,792 --> 00:31:25,332 Is this being triggered by their presence? 804 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:27,417 Is it being triggered by some of the experiments 805 00:31:27,542 --> 00:31:28,832 we carried out earlier? 806 00:31:28,833 --> 00:31:30,332 That's what we're trying to figure out. 807 00:31:30,333 --> 00:31:33,499 Is this the location where you felt the nausea hit you? 808 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,082 Yes, mm-hmm, right away. 809 00:31:36,083 --> 00:31:37,542 Nothing tonight, though? 810 00:31:37,667 --> 00:31:38,624 No, nothing tonight. 811 00:31:38,625 --> 00:31:39,499 Mm-mm. 812 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:40,791 Nope. 813 00:31:40,792 --> 00:31:41,875 Whoa. 814 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,999 You see this? Yep. 815 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,832 Yeah. 816 00:31:43,833 --> 00:31:44,666 What is that, Paul? 817 00:31:44,667 --> 00:31:46,999 Let me zoom out. 818 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,541 Look at all that fluctuating energy. 819 00:31:48,542 --> 00:31:49,874 Yeah, that's really weird. 820 00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:51,416 That looks angry. 821 00:31:51,417 --> 00:31:53,499 That does look angry. 822 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,457 What is that? 823 00:31:55,458 --> 00:31:57,666 Wow, what could that be? 824 00:31:57,667 --> 00:31:59,666 It has an edginess to it. 825 00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:02,833 Where all that energy is coming from 826 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,832 is something beyond me. 827 00:32:04,833 --> 00:32:06,749 Look at that, and it's intensifying. 828 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:08,249 It's interesting how it does that. 829 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:10,416 It'll just, like, get mad almost. 830 00:32:10,417 --> 00:32:13,832 You're interpreting this to be anger? 831 00:32:13,833 --> 00:32:18,874 Yeah, like angry at us for trying to identify it 832 00:32:18,875 --> 00:32:20,875 or to mess with it somehow. 833 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,082 To me, it's like, we-- 834 00:32:23,083 --> 00:32:25,750 they know we're here and we know they're here kind of thing. 835 00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:26,874 Mm-hmm. 836 00:32:26,875 --> 00:32:28,791 My shoulders are on fire right now. 837 00:32:28,792 --> 00:32:30,332 So I don't know what that is. 838 00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:32,624 Is it tied to the message that you're getting or is 839 00:32:32,625 --> 00:32:33,624 it tied to something else? 840 00:32:33,625 --> 00:32:34,707 I have no idea. 841 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:36,041 I don't know. 842 00:32:36,042 --> 00:32:38,833 It's the first thing you said is it's angry. 843 00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,749 So if you're feeling like whatever 844 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,666 the phenomenon is is angry-- 845 00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:44,416 Right. 846 00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:45,917 I mean, that obviously would make you feel uncomfortable. 847 00:32:46,042 --> 00:32:46,749 Yeah. 848 00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:48,541 Are you OK? 849 00:32:48,542 --> 00:32:49,333 Breathe. 850 00:32:52,917 --> 00:32:54,042 Yeah, no, we're OK. 851 00:32:54,167 --> 00:32:55,625 OK, so just keep us-- 852 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:57,499 keep us in the loop. 853 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,042 Look at that. Whoa. 854 00:32:59,167 --> 00:33:00,832 Whoa, whoa. 855 00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:04,499 This is up at 1.73 gigahertz, 1.731 gigahertz. 856 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,208 I mean, it just keeps going and going. 857 00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:15,791 Are you all right? 858 00:33:15,792 --> 00:33:16,957 I gotta be honest, you don't look OK. 859 00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:18,582 Yeah, no-- 860 00:33:18,583 --> 00:33:19,707 You look like you're really worried. 861 00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:20,832 I'm in pain. I'm in pain. 862 00:33:20,833 --> 00:33:22,208 It's, like, unbearable right now. 863 00:33:23,542 --> 00:33:26,499 Yeah, I'm right here. 864 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,291 It's burning. 865 00:33:28,292 --> 00:33:31,541 It feels like 10,000 knives in the top of both of my shoulders. 866 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:32,332 OK. 867 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:33,207 OK. 868 00:33:33,208 --> 00:33:34,832 Is it radiating downwards? 869 00:33:34,833 --> 00:33:36,000 - Yeah. - OK. 870 00:33:36,125 --> 00:33:37,332 Like, right down into here. 871 00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:40,041 OK. 872 00:33:40,042 --> 00:33:41,875 I mean, she looks very pale to me 873 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,500 now compared to how she did before. 874 00:33:47,625 --> 00:33:48,375 You all right? 875 00:33:52,917 --> 00:33:55,082 A nine. 876 00:33:55,083 --> 00:33:56,499 I just want to go get warm. 877 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:57,250 It's OK. 878 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:02,541 OK. - Yeah, I'm concerned. 879 00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:04,041 Yeah, look, we're just going to walk you back. 880 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:04,917 All right. 881 00:34:05,042 --> 00:34:06,457 I don't understand that. 882 00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:09,042 Because the whole time I was standing there, 883 00:34:09,167 --> 00:34:10,750 I was, like, trying to communicate-- 884 00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:11,707 Sit down here. 885 00:34:11,708 --> 00:34:13,457 in my mind mentally. 886 00:34:13,458 --> 00:34:16,082 And the more I did that, the more that 887 00:34:16,083 --> 00:34:17,792 was happening in my shoulders. 888 00:34:24,375 --> 00:34:25,291 Wow. 889 00:34:25,292 --> 00:34:27,124 Jeez. 890 00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:29,166 When I first took her blood pressure, 891 00:34:29,167 --> 00:34:30,332 it was actually really high. 892 00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:32,207 On the second one, it calmed down. 893 00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,916 I am obviously concerned with what's going on. 894 00:34:34,917 --> 00:34:36,874 And I am thinking that whatever was going 895 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:39,291 on up there is a stressful-- 896 00:34:39,292 --> 00:34:40,666 a stressful environment. 897 00:34:40,667 --> 00:34:42,832 I'm glad that we got her out of that situation. 898 00:34:42,833 --> 00:34:44,207 I don't think we need to call 911. 899 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:45,874 But I am gonna kind of monitor her. 900 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:46,832 Absolutely. 901 00:34:46,833 --> 00:34:48,499 We're not going anywhere. 902 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:49,666 Yeah. 903 00:34:51,417 --> 00:34:52,291 She's shaking. 904 00:34:52,292 --> 00:34:54,999 I don't know why I'm shaking. 905 00:35:04,542 --> 00:35:06,749 So, guys, welcome back to Rocky Mountain Ranch. 906 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:08,666 Tell us what happened. 907 00:35:08,667 --> 00:35:09,666 Where do we start? 908 00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:10,832 Third time's a charm, guys. 909 00:35:10,833 --> 00:35:12,207 Yeah, I have to say that this was 910 00:35:12,208 --> 00:35:13,957 one of our most interesting experiences 911 00:35:13,958 --> 00:35:15,832 at Rocky Mountain Ranch to date. 912 00:35:15,833 --> 00:35:18,499 We started by engaging Kris. 913 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:22,583 And as soon as she landed, it was astonishing to watch. 914 00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:26,374 Because she took us, of her own direction, 915 00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:30,042 her own natural instinct, back to that same bare spot, 916 00:35:30,167 --> 00:35:31,124 that landing site. 917 00:35:31,125 --> 00:35:32,166 And it was remarkable. 918 00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:33,791 I mean, it's been 50 years. 919 00:35:33,792 --> 00:35:37,624 So this is the opening of that time capsule that I mentioned. 920 00:35:37,625 --> 00:35:39,332 It was like she was returning home. 921 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:41,207 Wow. 922 00:35:41,208 --> 00:35:42,874 The next thing we wanted to do was 923 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:46,666 try to get Kris and Katie together to exactly replicate 924 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,624 the same ham radio experiment that we 925 00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:51,666 did during our very first investigation with Katie alone. 926 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:52,332 Right. 927 00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:53,832 So Jares came in. 928 00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:56,582 He set up the same AM radios that we had used before. 929 00:35:56,583 --> 00:35:59,582 He set up the same crystal radio that we had set up before. 930 00:35:59,583 --> 00:36:01,666 We had a FLIR running and we had our UFODAPs running. 931 00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:02,832 OK. 932 00:36:02,833 --> 00:36:03,999 So our production team actually 933 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,249 put together a number of highlights 934 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,749 for us, some very interesting things 935 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:09,166 that happened at the same time that the sisters were 936 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:10,541 present in the ranch house. 937 00:36:10,542 --> 00:36:11,999 And I want to share that with you next. 938 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,332 OK, we can correlate those. 939 00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:14,291 - Correct. - Yeah, OK. 940 00:36:14,292 --> 00:36:15,749 Correct. 941 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:17,124 And here we actually have the first clip happens, 942 00:36:17,125 --> 00:36:19,291 when Katie and Kris enter the room, 943 00:36:19,292 --> 00:36:21,207 this is what happens on the FLIR. 944 00:36:21,208 --> 00:36:22,792 So this is what's wild, guys. 945 00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:28,916 OK, what did we just see there? 946 00:36:28,917 --> 00:36:33,082 Here we see this large black mass. 947 00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:35,832 That's a cold burst. 948 00:36:35,833 --> 00:36:39,874 In nature, thermal events usually play out slowly. 949 00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:40,999 Yes. 950 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,833 Not on that timescale. 951 00:36:41,958 --> 00:36:42,832 Yes. 952 00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:44,124 And where are we looking? 953 00:36:44,125 --> 00:36:46,707 Almost directly over the landing site. 954 00:36:46,708 --> 00:36:47,708 Are you kidding me? 955 00:36:47,833 --> 00:36:50,207 Nope No. 956 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:53,457 Well, that certainly changes my interpretation 957 00:36:53,458 --> 00:36:54,666 of what we're looking at. 958 00:36:54,667 --> 00:36:55,832 Yes, it does. 959 00:36:55,833 --> 00:36:57,500 Think about it like this. 960 00:36:57,625 --> 00:36:59,416 Wouldn't you say it's about 68 degrees in here 961 00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:00,999 or 70 degrees or something? 962 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,499 All right, now watch this. 963 00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:07,499 If I had a FLIR over here on this wall, 964 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:11,666 it would all be pretty much one color. 965 00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:12,499 Right. 966 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:15,166 Y'all feel that cold air? 967 00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:16,457 FLIR would have just changed. 968 00:37:16,458 --> 00:37:17,999 Right. 969 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,666 What is this? 970 00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:21,083 Yeah, a portal. A portal. 971 00:37:21,208 --> 00:37:21,957 It's a portal. 972 00:37:21,958 --> 00:37:23,374 Wow. 973 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,167 You're frustrating me with this data. 974 00:37:25,292 --> 00:37:26,082 Yes. 975 00:37:26,083 --> 00:37:27,500 But not in a bad way. 976 00:37:27,625 --> 00:37:29,582 Erik is always frustrated, and I like 977 00:37:29,583 --> 00:37:31,499 it when you get him that way. 978 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,749 [laughs] Now we have more hits that we wanted 979 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:36,667 to run by you, this time corresponding to the point 980 00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:38,541 in the night where Kris and Katie tell 981 00:37:38,542 --> 00:37:42,957 the story of the voice that they heard as children in the house. 982 00:37:42,958 --> 00:37:45,166 So who is in the house? 983 00:37:46,833 --> 00:37:50,416 Whatever you are, I want to know who is in the house? 984 00:37:50,417 --> 00:37:53,042 Who am I talking to? 985 00:37:53,167 --> 00:37:55,332 And again, you can see off to the right-- 986 00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:56,832 Yeah, it's an airplane. 987 00:37:56,833 --> 00:37:57,832 Mm-hmm. 988 00:37:57,833 --> 00:37:59,291 There was a flash up there. 989 00:37:59,292 --> 00:38:00,166 Right, you saw that, too, right? 990 00:38:00,167 --> 00:38:01,541 Yeah, yeah. 991 00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,791 That's what we're trying to make sense of. 992 00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:05,499 It's bright. 993 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,707 Now, I picked up on something as you played it this time, 994 00:38:06,708 --> 00:38:08,333 Andy. 995 00:38:08,458 --> 00:38:09,666 I was watching this plane track across from the right 996 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:11,457 to the left here in our field of view, 997 00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:13,916 and it appeared that it went like this. 998 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:14,957 I'm hitting play. 999 00:38:14,958 --> 00:38:16,666 Here's real time again. 1000 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:19,541 And, of course, of interest to me here, given where 1001 00:38:19,542 --> 00:38:22,874 we're looking, is might we have an optical anomaly taking place? 1002 00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:23,957 I understand that's where 1003 00:38:23,958 --> 00:38:24,708 you were going with that. 1004 00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:26,250 Mm-hmm. 1005 00:38:26,375 --> 00:38:27,667 Oh, look at that. 1006 00:38:27,833 --> 00:38:29,583 That was significant. 1007 00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:32,207 Go back to that. 1008 00:38:32,208 --> 00:38:33,124 Right, just stop. 1009 00:38:33,125 --> 00:38:34,375 Now, play it forward. 1010 00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:38,332 Right there. 1011 00:38:38,333 --> 00:38:39,166 It's consistently doing this. 1012 00:38:39,167 --> 00:38:40,874 It does a shuffle. 1013 00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:43,624 Yes, it almost appears that we're viewing this aircraft 1014 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:45,166 through some kind of shimmer. Right. 1015 00:38:45,167 --> 00:38:46,832 This is exactly what we've been 1016 00:38:46,833 --> 00:38:50,875 trying to capture for several years now here at the Triangle. 1017 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,874 You have a known light source, commercial air 1018 00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:56,166 traffic way behind you. 1019 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,999 And we see, as it passes behind, what 1020 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,041 we know to be an anomalous hotspot or zone of interest, 1021 00:39:03,042 --> 00:39:07,707 the position and trajectory of this air traffic 1022 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:13,124 wiggles in a way that would be reminiscent of a optical 1023 00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:15,332 distortion between us and it. 1024 00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:16,707 Whatever is causing this, you're 1025 00:39:16,708 --> 00:39:18,999 saying there's some kind of lensing effect here-- 1026 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,708 Yes. 1027 00:39:20,833 --> 00:39:22,291 that's happening in the anomaly over the landing site. 1028 00:39:22,292 --> 00:39:23,582 Yes. 1029 00:39:23,583 --> 00:39:25,041 We got a lot of data at that point. 1030 00:39:25,042 --> 00:39:26,499 You got rocket crashes. 1031 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,749 You've got rocket malfunctions. 1032 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:31,707 You've got this weird hole in the grass. 1033 00:39:31,708 --> 00:39:34,042 We've got missing magnetometer data. 1034 00:39:34,167 --> 00:39:36,958 I'm not gonna jump up and say, hey, we just found a wormhole 1035 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:40,374 or, hey, we just found the portal, but here's the thing. 1036 00:39:40,375 --> 00:39:44,166 This, to me, is the best piece of data 1037 00:39:44,167 --> 00:39:46,291 that you've gathered on this experiment. 1038 00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:47,750 That is the best example of what-- 1039 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:50,791 I mean, that is a good catch, Erik, a very good catch. 1040 00:39:50,792 --> 00:39:53,999 Not the same night, but the following night, the two sisters 1041 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,166 agreed to go back to that same bare spot, that landing site. 1042 00:39:58,167 --> 00:40:00,957 We moved our entire experiment station out to the landing site. 1043 00:40:00,958 --> 00:40:01,832 OK. 1044 00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:03,457 We are right in it. 1045 00:40:03,458 --> 00:40:04,916 So I wanted you to see the change in the RF spectrum. 1046 00:40:04,917 --> 00:40:05,750 OK. 1047 00:40:05,875 --> 00:40:06,624 All right. 1048 00:40:06,625 --> 00:40:07,582 Whoa. 1049 00:40:07,583 --> 00:40:08,875 You see this? Yep. 1050 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,208 Yeah. - What is that, Paul? 1051 00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:11,166 Let me zoom out. 1052 00:40:11,167 --> 00:40:12,457 That's angry. 1053 00:40:12,458 --> 00:40:13,957 That does look angry. 1054 00:40:13,958 --> 00:40:15,166 Wow. Whoa. 1055 00:40:15,167 --> 00:40:16,582 What could that be? 1056 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,166 Is all that data? 1057 00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:20,541 It looks like it is. 1058 00:40:20,542 --> 00:40:22,208 Yeah, I mean, it looks structured in a way 1059 00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:23,624 that it's someone's technology. 1060 00:40:23,625 --> 00:40:24,291 Right. 1061 00:40:24,292 --> 00:40:26,083 But whose? 1062 00:40:26,208 --> 00:40:29,082 And then I also wanted to show you the response that we started 1063 00:40:29,083 --> 00:40:31,332 getting from Kris and Katie. 1064 00:40:31,333 --> 00:40:32,957 Are you all right? 1065 00:40:32,958 --> 00:40:34,332 I gotta be honest, you don't look OK. 1066 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:35,625 Yeah, no. 1067 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:36,666 You look like you're really worried. 1068 00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:37,916 I'm in pain. I'm in pain. 1069 00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:40,166 It feels like knives, like 10,000 knives 1070 00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:41,750 in the top of my shoulders. 1071 00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:45,582 Her response began as soon as we saw the radio frequencies 1072 00:40:45,583 --> 00:40:46,999 start bouncing around. 1073 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,249 She did not escape that pain until we literally 1074 00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:54,499 removed her from that site and took her into the garage 1075 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:55,832 of the ranch house. 1076 00:40:55,833 --> 00:40:57,999 You went inside and closed the garage door? 1077 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,916 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 1078 00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:00,083 Oh, yeah. 1079 00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:01,374 Right, well, which was probably 1080 00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:03,332 a fairly decent shielding. 1081 00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:06,667 We had one day here where suddenly I was 1082 00:41:06,792 --> 00:41:09,999 getting nauseous, sick, pain. 1083 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,082 So I went and got into these metal silos. 1084 00:41:13,083 --> 00:41:15,207 And when I did, it's like you flipped a switch. 1085 00:41:15,208 --> 00:41:15,958 I felt fine. 1086 00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:21,124 Son of a 1087 00:41:21,125 --> 00:41:22,124 Did it really go away? 1088 00:41:22,125 --> 00:41:23,124 Yes. 1089 00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:24,832 It's like a damn switch. 1090 00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:27,707 That was-- that was freaky weird. 1091 00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:33,457 Somehow I was being susceptible 1092 00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:35,042 to some sort of electromagnetic event 1093 00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:36,749 that everybody else wasn't. 1094 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:41,332 I would say that we're learning every time we get together, 1095 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:44,166 guys, as we go beyond Skinwalker, 1096 00:41:44,167 --> 00:41:48,332 there's so many more aspects to it that just keeping our arms 1097 00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:49,666 around it is not an easy task. 1098 00:41:49,667 --> 00:41:51,083 Yeah. 1099 00:41:51,208 --> 00:41:55,082 The biggest question I have now for Katie and Kris 1100 00:41:55,083 --> 00:41:57,332 is how do they feel now? 1101 00:41:57,333 --> 00:41:58,500 Have they reconciled? 1102 00:41:58,625 --> 00:41:59,874 Have they made peace with it or has 1103 00:41:59,875 --> 00:42:02,832 it stirred up something worse? 1104 00:42:02,833 --> 00:42:06,332 And I'd really be interested to know that and know what they 1105 00:42:06,333 --> 00:42:09,083 think about, you know, further, you know, 1106 00:42:09,208 --> 00:42:10,916 poking in this hornet's nest. 1107 00:42:10,917 --> 00:42:13,333 Because we're gonna poke, whether they're with us or not. 1108 00:42:13,458 --> 00:42:15,292 We're going back to wherever that anomaly is 1109 00:42:15,417 --> 00:42:16,666 and doing some more measurements. 1110 00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:17,707 We'll start working on a plan for what 1111 00:42:17,708 --> 00:42:19,041 we want that to look like. 1112 00:42:19,042 --> 00:42:20,624 Thank you for what you brought to the table. 1113 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:21,999 - It was a pleasure. - Good job, guys. 1114 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,624 Well, thanks, guys. All right. 1115 00:42:23,625 --> 00:42:24,707 Thank you. Yeah, man. 1116 00:42:24,708 --> 00:42:25,917 Great work.